A Return to Tridentine Rite

20/9/09

Since many Anglo-Catholic churches in the UK use the Roman Missal and follow the Roman Lectionary, I was wondering if any of these churches had also re-instituted the Extraordinary Rite (ie, the pre-Vatican II form of the mass) in either Latin or English following the publication of the Pope's Moto Proprio on Holy Cross Day last year?

Surely, if Anglican churches are to follow Roman liturgical practice, they should not pick and choose! Most Anglo-Catholic churches dropped use of the English Missal (to the consternation of many worshippers), brought in a nave altar etc on the grounds that they were following modern Roman practice. Now that Rome has returned to the old rite, have they?

Jason, London

REPLIES

Paul Tillett - 24/9/09

Well done Jason, keep up the pressure!!

It is time we brought back some dignity into our worship instead of making our services
sound and feel like a social occasion with a religious content.

Paul Tillett

Peter Graham - 25/9/09

I would ask those who want to use the extra-ordinary rite whether they think it is appropriate to set aside the work of the Vatican Council in what can only be described as congregationalism. May I suggest we all re-read the documents of the Vatican Council, and renew our studies in what we think Eucharist really is! As for the English Missal that book has never had any authority in heaven , earth or indeed any other place.

You will see this matter has stirred me up! I venerated the relics of St Theresa on Wednesday and have been enlivened!

Peter Graham

Terry Delaney - 30/9/09

The Tridentine Rite incorporates the Holy Mystery that is Our Lords Sacrifice where the Canon of the mass is almost silently said by the Celebrant this gives the aura that is not found with other celebration and especially not in a concelebration.

We all have our own way that gives us that empathy with our Lord this gives us satisfaction the Tridentine Rite is a celebration that older members of the guild has been brought up with and understand let us respect the celebration
.
Maybe we can get some practice in for The Holy Father's visit in 2010 as he is a well known supporter of the old ways which must give some authority.

It would be pleasant to have a Tridentine mass at one of the Guilds Festivals?

Kind regards
Terry Delaney
Suffolk's Lone Server retired

- 25/10/09

I was brought up in an old fashioned AC parish where much of the Tridentine Mass was quietly interpolated into Cranmer's communion service.
I still remember the thrill I felt when, serving at Mass one weekday, I realized the vicar was saying the offertory prayers and Canon in Latin! However, I didn't experience the full Tridentine Rite until I was taken to an Assumption Day High Mass at St Magnus, London Bridge, and after that, despite the vernacular propers, nothing else would ever really do.
I'd love to think the old rite had come back to St Magnus, and to so many other Anglican parishes - those that survive - which had adopted the full Roman rite by the 50's and 60's

Terry Delaney - 28/12/09

There is a picture of what is obviously a Tridentine Celebration from Pusey House on the the back of the current issue of FORWARD which would indicate that many congregations prefer this rite to multi concelebration.

Happy New Year to the brethren we are becoming truly international - Greetings

Kind regards

Terry Delaney

Suffolk