SWINGING THURIBLE

I have some questions on the types of swing of the thurible when in procession:

·         Half or 180° swings on one’s right side (and the occasional single 180° swing on one’s left side);

·         Full or 360° swing on one’s right side;

·         Figure 8 across the body.

When may the 360° and figure 8 swings be used?  Are they a singular or continuous triple swing each time?  If the 360° swing is threefold, are the swings all in the same direction?  Should the 360° and figure 8 swings each be conducted only thrice in a procession/length of an aisle?  In the Gospel procession is the swing limited, as in the final procession, to the 180° swing?

I am aware that the Reverend Dearmer in The Parson’s Handbook forbad anything other than a short simple back-and-forth swing.

R.A.Eriksen

Sacristan

Cathedral of the Holy Trinity

Diocese of Auckland

Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia

 


REPLIES

Fr Ed Bakker - 15/12/11

Find this book on the net

Parish Acolyte Guide
By Donna H. Barthle

Father Ed Bakker OPR
 
This book tells you that the Priest decides how many degrees the thurible is to be swung during a procession.
Based my many years as thurifer at Christ Church Brunswick, Melbourne, I used to a 180 degree swing on the right side
it was felt that that was the safest way. We did not go for fancy footwork.
 
I see you are Sacristan at Holy Trinity Cathedral , Auckland , they have not taken up incese there surely?
It used to be used I think at St.Pauls in Symonds street and at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Kyber Pass road.
Give me some feedback.
 
I am now living in Bendigo , Australia
Before I joined the ACC/OP  I served at the altar of Saint Michael and All Angels in Christchurch
for a while and the head server John de La Bere used to a lot of fancy swinging , like the full circle, again
to myway of thinking not so safe for Parishioners.
 
God bless
 
 
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 15/12/11

I was always taught that a  GOOD Server should be like a piece of furniture & "not noticed".
 
Hence, keep it simple & follow the Parsons Guide and you should upset no-one!
 

 Robert Tucker - 15/12/11

I always teach new thurifers to keep it simple.  In my church we are too close to the congregation to anything elaborate as people are scared when a hot silver vessel is swung close to their face.  The church is carpeted, any spillage of hot charcoal would have expensive results.  I have always been taught that servers should not drawer attention to themselves in any way.  That is one reason for robbing; it is not Bob Tucker, or  "Joe Blogs" etc. but a Server, a Priest, or a Bishop performing his or her ministry in God's Church.  I have made it a rule that no 360 degree swings are to be made.  This was endorsed by the Priest in Charge at that time.  The same rule applies in our Cathedral of Saint Michael in Coventry.
Robert Tucker, Sacristan, Saint Mary Magdalen
, Chapelfields, Coventry, England ,
 

 Fr David Moore - 15/12/11

Quite ridiculous and very intrusive to swing a thurible 180 degrees........servers ought never to intrude into worship in anyway.

Father Moore...Warden G.S.S.
 

  23/1/12

Roman authors on ceremonial generally say little or nothing about swinging the thurible. Fortescue just says it should be swung gently to keep the coals glowing. At papal ceremonies a  moderate fore-and-aft swing is the norm, as it is at Westminster Cathedral, once considered in Rome itself as a liturgical model for the whole Roman Rite. To maximize ventilation most authors recommend keeping the thurible slightly open when not being used for actual incensing.
A more exuberant handling of the thurible can be seen at Notre Dame in Paris, where they seem to use a lot of incense these days, maybe in reaction to the post-conciliar years of abstinence! You won't see any full circles, but something close to 180 degrees seems to be the norm, and the thurible flies way out on either side when the thurifer stands in front of the altar. For a moment I thought I was back in the C of E!
 
 

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